Monday 29 August 2022

'Meghan of Montecito' Graces The Cut's September Cover

With the release of Archetypes last week, I anticipated we would see at least a couple of appearances/interviews from Meghan to coincide with the promotion of the twelve-episode series which has stormed the Spotify charts globally. Interviews are particularly complex for the Sussexes because the publication, editor, producer or journalist will always want to delve deeper into Meghan's time in Britain and all that remains unsaid about her time there. I've said before, there's an enormous amount of hurt remaining, which I think is conveyed in this interview -- the description of the "bittersweet" return to Frogmore Cottage is illustrative. We hear about family life in Montecito, touching anecdotes, and insights into Archie's and Lili's personalities. The strength of Harry and Meghan's relationship, their Archewell work and the power of reclaiming her voice (she's even toying with the idea of rejoining Instagram). As Meghan says: "When the media has shaped the story around you, it’s really nice to be able to tell your own story." I wholly recommend reading the piece in its entirety (click here to do so). Allison P. Davis did a superb job with 'Meghan of Montecito', cutting through the relentless deluge of 'stories' we see daily to offer a window into the life of a woman "still healing" and a young family navigating new and unchartered terrain.

The interview features a stunning photoshoot by London-based, South-African born photographer Campbell Addy. The images show Meghan with minimal make up, her hair worn in a sleek updo in most of the pictures, while wearing a selection of black and white designs. We saw Meghan wearing a lot of neutral and monochrome looks during 2017-2019, and she's been favouring those choices again this year. There's a very sweet moment in the interview when Harry talks about the shoot, saying, "'Tell her the first thing you said when you got back last night,' before turning to Allison. 'She said, ‘I’m not a model.’ 'I was like, ‘No, you are, of course you can be a model.’ And she’s like, ‘I’m a mom!’ And it’s like, ‘You can be both.'"

I've been on something of a social media hiatus over the summer and away from blogging more than I would like due to other commitments. I checked in today to see nothing has changed. The sphere of online royal watching remains toxic. Meghan recalls her own social media experiences during her time as a working member of the Royal family:

'Meghan was permitted to join Harry, Kate, and Will on a preexisting account, @KensingtonRoyal, that she had no control over. “There’s literally a structure by which if you want to release photos of your child, as a member of the family, you first have to give them to the Royal Rota,” the U.K. media pool, she explains. Usually, the photos would be on media outlets before she could post them herself. That didn’t sit right with Meghan, given her strained relationship with the British tabloids (“Harry’s girl is [almost] straight outta Compton” is how the Daily Mail introduced her to the British public), and especially since she would soon have a child of her own to protect. “Why would I give the very people that are calling my children the N-word a photo of my child before I can share it with the people that love my child?” she asks, still ruffled. “You tell me how that makes sense and then I’ll play that game.”

If one has heard first-hand (as I have) the remarks, jibes and appalling behaviour of members of the media after the 2020 Commonwealth Service, it's not difficult to understand how she feels. In another part of the article (there's been a lot of commentary about this already so I thought it prudent to address it) Meghan talks about taking Archie to school. Allison writes: "Earlier in our conversation about her goals for the life she’s creating here, she’d remarked upon how, if Archie were in school in the U.K., she’d never be able to do school pickup and drop-off without it being a royal photo call with a press pen of 40 people snapping pictures. 'Sorry, I have a problem with that. That doesn’t make me obsessed with privacy.'"

Whilst there is and most certainly would have been an expectation of Rota press for Archie and Lili's first day of school, there would not be a scenario where that would happen on other occasions owing to the Independent Press Standards Organisations codes on children's rights in school.  Allison didn't use a direct quote there, so it's possible Meghan was referring to the 'first day of school' photocall. That's not to say there wouldn't have been other issues such as paparazzi and lack of privacy, there very possibly would have been -- not to mention security concerns.

On returning to Frogmore:

'You go back and you open drawers and you’re like, Oh my gosh. This is what I was writing in my journal there? And here’s all my socks from this time?” The blue-and-white linen pants she’s wearing today were something from the cottage, actually: “They’re like $30 pants from Boden, and I brought them back.”

It was bittersweet, you know? Knowing none of it had to be this way.'

Allison writes:

'They also thought it best to leave the U.K. (and the U.K. press) to do it. They were willing to go to basically any commonwealth, Canada, New Zealand, South Africa, anywhere. “Anything to just … because just by existing, we were upsetting the dynamic of the hierarchy. So we go, ‘Okay, fine, let’s get out of here. Happy to,’ ” she says, putting her hands up in mock defeat. Meghan asserts that what they were asking for wasn’t “reinventing the wheel” and lists a handful of princes and princesses and dukes who have the very arrangement they wanted. “That, for whatever reason, is not something that we were allowed to do, even though several other members of the family do that exact thing.”

On forgiveness:

'I think forgiveness is really important. It takes a lot more energy to not forgive. But it takes a lot of effort to forgive. I’ve really made an active effort, especially knowing that I can say anything. I have a lot to say until I don’t. Do you like that? Sometimes, as they say, the silent part is still part of the song.'

On Archetypes and the excitement of her first release: "It’s so real. I feel different. I feel clearer. It’s like I’m finding — not finding my voice. I’ve had my voice for a long time, but being able to use it."

Archie and Lili sound utterly adorable and these little nuggets are darling:

'“One of the first things my husband saw when we walked around the house was those two palm trees,” she coos. “See how they’re connected at the bottom? He goes, ‘My love, it’s us.’  And now every day when Archie goes by us, he says, ‘Hi, Momma. Hi, Papa.’ ” They had toured only the grounds when they told the real-estate agent, “We have to get this house,” Meghan says. 

We pull up to the house, and Archie leaps out. Harry is ending a phone call as Archie throws himself around his legs. Lilibet, unsmiling with watchful bright-blue eyes, is brought out by her nanny. She is small and also ginger, and when there is a small person in the room not smiling, it is a reflex to do anything to entertain them. Harry starts dancing to his own beatboxing, and Meghan bends down and joins in and then I find myself doing it too, until she gives a lopsided smile and we all realize it’s a bit strange to be bonding in this way.'

 As for Harry and Meghan? They are like salt and pepper, she says.

'"You never move one without the other." That’s me and Harry. We’re like salt and pepper. We always move together.'

The Duchess was styled by Jessica Willis for the shoot, with hair by Hos Hounkpatin, make-up by Edwin Sandoval, and tailoring by Susie Kourinian. On the cover, Meghan wore a colour-block tulle dress by Tory Burch from the Resort 2023 collection.

And accessorised with Lanvin brass and green strass Melodie earrings from the Resort 2023 collection.


In this photo, Meghan wears a sleek black gown with a deep V-neck by Bottega Veneta. It's accessorized with jewels from Mikimoto and Mateo.

I adore the Chanel Fantasy Tweed dress accessorized with Manolo Blahnik BB pumps and Sophie Buhai pearl earrings.

And last but not least, a custom made (very chic) white Proenza Schouler suit, worn with another pair of Manolo Blahnik BB pumps in 'white nappa leather' and Mateo half moon earrings with diamonds. 

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As you may have heard, the Sussexes have a new addition to their family in the form of seven-year-old beagle Mamma Mia!

The Los Angeles Times reports:

'Her changed life began in July when federal authorities rescued her — along with 4,000 other beagles — from overcrowded and unsanitary conditions at the Envigo breeding and research plant in Virginia.

“The duchess called me personally,” said Shannon Keith, an animal rights attorney who runs the Beagle Freedom Project out of the low-slung Valley Village house where she used to live. But Keith said that at first, she didn’t realize who the “VIP Donor” interested in a beagle adoption was.

They played in the backyard with Mia, who had been transported with eight of her newborn puppies from Maryland, where the dogs had been taken after the Virginia rescue, to Valley Village. But they did not want a puppy.

“The duchess is holding Mia and was like, ‘We’re adopting her,’” Keith said. “She was like ‘No, we don’t want a Christmas puppy. … We want ones we can help who are older.’”

There was one moment which really stuck out for me. As they were leaving Harry paused and asked: "Well, we can’t leave yet because there’s something in that back house she needs. Does she have a favorite toy or something?" It turned out there was a fox toy Mia played with which she wanted. Reassured Mia had something to take with her to her 'forever home, Harry said: "Now, we can go home."

We'll hear Meghan talking to Mariah Carey tomorrow on the second episode of Archetypes. Meanwhile, Serena begins her final major tournament tonight with the US Open. Might the Duchess make a surprise appearance?

48 comments:

  1. Susan in Florida29 August 2022 at 21:51

    My jaw dropped, for some of what was said in this article , and for the fashion photos which are amazing !

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  2. All I can say is… isn’t she amazing? LRB

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    1. Oh yes! Meghan is amazing.
      For my part, I am starting to see several media that are already denouncing the strong abusive hatred intended for the Sussexes and Meghan in particular. Moreover, it is so fair and remarkable when many recognize that Prince Harry has improved in the presence of his wife Meghan (we find him more efficient and enterprising in his commitments)...
      Time has done itself justice. And still what a waste I find to have wanted so much to sabotage them simply because they are more admired (it is their natural aura) and what great added value it would have brought to the firm to show a little " humanity and humility".

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  3. Becca in Colorado29 August 2022 at 22:09

    It was so great to hear from Meghan again. I've often wondered what I would do in her shoes, how I would handle the sharing (or not sharing) of what I'd been through. There are times both she and Harry have spoken up that I felt was a bad idea and only served to feed further bad press, but I also think it's interesting and powerful to watch them come back to life, as it were, and reclaim their own selves after so much trauma. Because it was a ton of trauma that they experienced, especially Meghan.

    I really hope that therapy has helped them both and that they'll eventually no longer feel the need to defend themselves from the things that happened during that time of their lives. I'd love to see Meghan rejoin Instagram, as I missed out on the Tig days. I do think she's a lovely, good-hearted individual that has a lot to share; I think her own anxiety over how she'll be received is what sometimes makes her come across as fake or try-hard. The thing I keep coming back to is how amazing it is that she continues to put herself out there after everything that has happened.

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    1. As I totally agree with you. After this big trauma I also think that she can only heal herself and move on after having brought out everything that free, unjustly and violently hurt her; in this very difficult experience which has been that of the Sussex.
      I think it is imperative to restore certain truths to face those who lie without gene and for free to discredit you: it is human.
      To be subjected to so much pressure and violence to a human Being whether in the context of a royal or normal family is inhuman and wicked; what glory and honor do you get by wanting to keep the first place while suffocating those who are behind you?

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  4. I just love sweet Mamma Mia and her stuffed fox! And I enjoy everything Meghan (including the earrings she wore in The Cut -- I must see more of them!). Like a good friend (me), I do not expect her to be perfect. One thing I'm sure is driving some people nuts is her saying that Harry said he lost his father. Interestingly, Omid says it was a misquote -- that Meghan told Harry she hoped he didn't lose his father like she did. I don't care -- Meghan is talking about herself (and her husband). She is not gossiping about members of the RF. I love her voice and find it is quite a treat to have 12 (!!) podcasts with publicity in-between. The vile lying UK media is just going into overtime -- I so agree with your wisdom, Charlotte, that "The sphere of online royal watching remains toxic." I sent a link to Meghan's first podcast to an editor who works with me for his 16-year-old daughter. Because of their daughter, he and his wife are now fans of Billie Ellish and go to Indies concerts with her. :) He was unaware of the media but was horrified at what he read. I go back to the first nasty reports about Meghan in the media -- I would have expected a response from Charles, but the lack of such set the stage for what was to come. I still firmly believe that if the palace had worked to show Kate and Meghan working together, if they could have gone to events together, that would only have enhanced the popularity of the "heirs." I kept hoping -- I know there are many mutual events/causes they could have worked on. I hope Meghan does not go on Instagram - it's just too much negative energy to wade through the comments. Love this and really looking forward to tomorrow -- Mariah Carey was a surprise and I hope for good things.

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  5. Oh wow.

    When H&M left their Royal duties, it seemed like such a shame that they and the BRF (and advisors) couldn’t come up w a compromise that would have allowed them to carry on some official duties while creating an outside life. Seemed like Meghan could have added so much to the Commonwealth and the stuffy Royal image. But now I see that it would never have worked.

    The things she’s complaining about (the scrutiny, the rituals around the press, the rules about protocol, the “on with the Show” mentality) were always going to be part of the deal. Some of her comments (dating back to her mystification about Archie not having a title) make it seem like she truly didn’t understand how the whole thing works, but where was Harry in all this? Surely, he could have been helping her understand the Rules of the Road? Even if he was downplaying all the pain points, Meghan is smart enough to have figured out the lay of the land as she moved along in her relationship with Harry. I’d so much rather have seen them bale out at the beginning (turn down the Sussex titles and move on with their lives), rather than try to punch through the concrete ceiling and end up where they are: publicly showcasing all this bad blood with Harry’s family, knowing that they can’t/won’t respond.

    I understand why Meghan would hate all those trappings - in a million years I can’t imagine being comfortable in that lifestyle - but it’s such a pity that it’s come to this.

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    1. Becca in Colorado30 August 2022 at 00:43

      This is something I've always struggled with, as well, with some of her comments, because she's basically played into the negative narrative that she wasn't "fit" for her royal role and that the marriage was too fast as a result of being unprepared for it, which I don't think was really the case, but her comments make it seem like the haters were justified, in a way. So, I've always wondered where the breakdown really was, because both she and Harry are highly intelligent individuals that were eager to do their royal roles.

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    2. I agree with a lot of what you've said, zipzip - I'm not sure why Harry wasn't more informed or helpful either. I know that Meghan & Harry will be asked to rehash things about leaving the BRF, but I hope it calms down soon and they are able to focus more on the present. The anecdotes of the children are sweet, and Harry & Meghan's obvious love for each other is cute (though cloying after a while, and I promise I'm a fan). Absolutely *loved* the fashion here, and looking forward to more episodes of the podcast! I'm glad the author of the article didn't mince words about the privilege H&M have that they've *earned* vs the inherent privilege of the BRF; I see other BRF members spending money just as much or more than the Sussexes and getting no guff for it. It is a nasty press game. I think the tone of this article was fair & positive. Reading Twitter comments about this article was unpleasant. Ugh. Onwards and upwards, Sussexes! Excellent post, Charlotte! -op

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    3. I agree with you Zipzip.
      I wonder if Meghan thought she could make in roads to modernising the RF? I'm beginning to think she didn't want to understand how the BRF and how the Firm worked. I'm no longer going to follow or comment as I don't like how this is playing out and I'm disappointed she continually is going over things that have happened (especially as she knows there will be no comment from the RF, there is always 2 sides to a story) rather than leaving it alone and stay focused on the present and on their future as a family. Sue in WA

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    4. It was totally unrealistic of Prince Harry to encourage his wife in the belief that they could ever play a significant role in an overseas Commonwealth country. It shows that neither of them understand the role of the British Sovereign and her family. For example in the case of New Zealand it is many years since we appointed English aristocrats to the position of Governor or Governor- General representing the British Monarch. New Zealand now chooses distinguished New Zealanders for this role. This person chosen by our Cabinet and confirmed by the NZ Parliament is on a short term contract which covers their accommodation and limited living expenses plus a very moderate stipend which wouldn't give the Sussex couple anywhere near the standard of living they are accustomed to. Government House in Wellington is a much more modest affair than their current luxury home in Montecito. Also they would certainly not be free to speak out on any issue they wished as their speeches would have to fit in with the policies of whichever party was in government. during their term of office. . Their overseas travel would be curtailed and subject to Cabinet approval and Harry would have to represent the Queen by opening the New Zealand Parliament each year. His other duties would include signing legislation into law and performing other constitutional tasks just like the Queen does in UK. They both would have various local patronages and spend a lot of time visiting worthy events, unveiling plaques and hosting garden parties as well as welcoming overseas guests. In fact their activities would be more constrained than they were in UK and earning extra income from commercial activities would be definitely out. Frankly the NZ taxpayer could not afford them.

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    5. The division now caused in the Royal Family is tragic, because besides being an institution, they are also a family. To oversimplify and explain the situation, Meghan just does not have the temperament or personality to hold a Royal role. This is NOT throwing shade at her. Most people are not cut out to be Royals and would not enjoy the media scrutiny, public life and inability to state their opinions. It is really sad that Meghan couldn't come to this realization before she married Harry. Some speak of Meghan's wish to modernize the RF, but this is not her job. The institution that has stood for over a thousand years, is steeped in heritage and tradition and it will only change as and when a Monarch institutes changes. It has certainly changed in the past and it will continue to do so, although not at the pace or direction that Meghan and some outsiders wish it would. Meghan had potential to do well with her extroverted personalty and public speaking skills, but obviously the role was not for her. Always outspoken, her comments now about the Royals are not helping the situation if there is ever to be a reconciliation, although they are giving her, her voice. I feel badly for everyone concerned. Life is too short for rifts within families. The fact that the families on both sides are now estranged didn't need to happen.

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    6. I completely agree with you, Gema. I wish Meghan an happy life and all the best, I think their position now is better for them and I'm happy to know they are happy and thriving, I wish the Sussexes healing. Having saying that, it's clear they were not meant to be working royals, and that's ok, I'm not meant to be a working royal either

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    7. It requires a very unusual personality to enjoy being a royal. The Queen fits this perfectly because she has been brought up to be absolutely dutiful and willing to subordinate her own personality in the role. Numerous commentators have noted that her natural inclination would be to retire to the country and look after her horses and dogs. Her education was rudimentry apart from some teenage instruction about the British constitution and what she has picked up from her many years of overseas and internal travel. Apparently she speaks French quite well, but in spite of being brought up surrounded by works of art, she is surprisingly uninterested in cultural activities.
      For someone with a better education and wider interests and an ambition to make their mark on the world, it would be totally stifling and the titles and luxurious lifestyle pall after a while as you are subjected to the demands of the news media and the alternating adoration and abuse of the general public. No wonder Harry said that his father and brother are trapped in the system and many minor members of the family are opting out. Anne's family are the notable example but most of the younger generation are finding other employment. There is no barrier to the Sussexes doing the same unless they try to retain the Royal trappings.After all titles and patronages and the publicity that accompany them make it very difficult to knuckle down to a more private way of life. Harry and Meghan must decide which road they will take if they are to be successful in their endeavours. They may genuinely believe that the Royal system needs to change but the paradox is that the present style of governance does ensure that the monarch is kept under effective control and if someone oversteps the mark they are called to account, sometimes brutally so. The British have ensured that their head of state would find it very difficult if not impossible to seize real power and become an autocrat ruler, unlike the situation in USA and some other regimes. Ensuring that the monarch cannot speak out in the political arena makes it very difficult for them to take control. They may tinker a bit behand the scenes but, as Charles has found to his cost, this is always frowned upon. So while Meghan may think she can change the present unwritten rules, she is pushing against years of constitutional development. If you want to express your strongly felt opinions you have to distance yourself from the system. This is why returning to UK at this time threatens the Monarch and her heirs. It almost looks as if they are trying to set up a rival way of doing things.

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  6. So happy to see Meghan speak up for herself with what she is willing to share at this point in her healing. The photos are gorgeous. So happy to see she was interviewed by a black woman and photographed by a black man.

    The most condemning and shameful part of the persecution of Meghan is that not one member of the royal family spoke up to silence the mob. Not one. This is a huge condemnation of the royal family. They have lost supporters because of their behavior. I'm happy to see it.

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  7. Beautiful photos. Love the pearl necklace, she is wearing, divine.

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  8. I look forward to reading it. i like the photos too especially the one of her sitting down in the strapless dress she looks gorgeous. I hear there is some so-called shocking things she says in here about the royal family but want to read it in full and form my own opinion since the media especially the british press loves to bash her. thanks for your hard work on this Charlotte

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  9. The whole world is showing Meghan and the royal family what they think of them by pushing Meghan's podcast to #1 everywhere.

    I'm loving it.

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  10. She's such a strong, independent, smart woman. A real icon. I'm so glad that she found a very fitting role for herself - inspiring others and taking care of people. She is never afraid of showing herself weak or sad. Only strongest people can do this.

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  11. Do we know at what time exactly the podcasts episodes are released? (I'm from Egypt so European time will do thanks) I keep waiting for the new episode to pop up on Spotify but as of this morning still nothing. I just cannot wait for more Meghan content! Also she looks fabulous in this photoshoot and the kids sound so adorable especially Archie which of course it's to be expected since he's older and a toddler and able to express himself and his personality more. Love, love, love the Sussexes!

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  12. Thank you Charlotte for this thoughtful article. I enjoyed reading the article from the cut as well. Meghan really is beyond brave to throw herself into work the way she does. I like the way she balances her strength with her vulnerability and her intelligence with a somehow - „I do not need to be perfect and do perfect“ attitude. The pictures are amazing and really something new.

    Kristina

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    1. I have been waiting patiently to see what they intended to do in the way of supporting their often stated principles which are in line with my own. The idea of producing multi media documentaries to educate the public about important issues very much appealed to me and is sorely needed in this world where misinformation flourishes. However since they left UK for California many months ago, nothing substantial has appeared except continued statements of their personal opinions and repeated anecdotes about how they have both suffered and been unfairly persecuted. Harry's environmental credential's are completely undermined by their opulent life style. If you consider this is unfair criticism, please give us some examples of them practising what they have been preaching! For instance Harry could cut down on his first class travel in line with his Travelyst advice and Meghan could buy less expensive recycled clothing rather than modelling outfits most of us cannot afford.

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  13. Ok- I am starting to get confused. Why do we always get stories about their past royal life? Sorry but that’s all so long ago. They had years to talk about it and go in with their lives. I thought they would long have reached the moment were their projects and future plans take over in the public interest. I am definitely not interested in royal stuff. I would like to see what they are doing NOW. What are their plans? I am a fan but lately it feels more as if I want to be a fan. It looks more and more as if they are relying on the royal connection for publicity instead of doing the hard work in building a profile on their own. Maybe I need to step back from supporting them till they show that they don’t need to constantly bring up the RF? I don’t know. I get more and more confused about them and all the promises they made.

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    1. Maybe Harry and Meghan do not wish to reveal their plans for the future or Archewel for that matter, have seen them criticized for any and everything then others do the same and praised for it. It's just Meghan and Harry speaking their truth it's not their fault people keep asking about their time as working royals.

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    2. Becca in Colorado30 August 2022 at 16:48

      Well, the press (especially in the UK) keep bringing up M&H and the royal family incessantly, as a further means to trash M&H's reputation. I think the Sussexes are simply trying to stand up for themselves in the face of an insane group of haters (for lack of a better word) who just will not let them go. They bashed them while they were working royals and told them to "go back to America," and then they bash them for going to America and having successful business ventures. You can't have it both ways.

      Also, I think M&H address these issues because they are, as Meghan said herself in this interview, still healing. And while I do wish they'd sometimes just stay silent and let their amazing work speak for itself, I can't say that I wouldn't want to set the record straight and defend myself after being suicidal and never receiving an apology from anyone in the press or the royal family. So, I don't think we can really judge them for that.

      Healing from trauma (and I'd say being gaslit and being suicidal IS traumatic) isn't a linear or a quick process.

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    3. I think the problem is, that they don't have the time to "let their amazing work speak for itself", because its seen as an attach on the royal family. Which is a ridiculous notion. Meghan has since January 202 only given 3/4 interviews (if I am not mistaken); and has only discussed the royal family in the Oprah & The Cut interview. But there is a lot of rumours about what she said, etc. The fatigue shouldn't be blamed on Meghan, because that's the media's endgame. Meghan has in the meantime invested in Clevr Blends, written and recorded "The Bench", worked on the proposal (if not the episodes) for "Pearl", raised money for vaccines, supported Harry with the Invictus Games and Mandela Speech, and has written the and produced "Archetypes". All this in less than 2 years. That's a lot of work, and this seem to get lost in the negativity. Meghan is a worker but the problem is there is an expectation that she should have a 70 year portfolio in 2 years, or shut up about experiences. We are shaped or sabotage by our experiences.

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  14. This article starts off reminding folks that Meghan was a model in Deal or No Deal and then shares an odd story by Harry about Meghan coming home and saying she's not a model after doing a photoshoot for the magazine. And it's like they've forgotten she was an actress for seven years on Suits and had to do photoshoots for press.

    She also seems not to know that Britian has an Independent Press Standards Organization and had her children actually been called the N-word there would have been severe consequences, not to mention the ability for them to sue - which they are not hesitant to do.

    It will be interesting to see where she goes from here. Her indiscretion about talking about South Africa may knock her out of international relations (United Nations will not come calling) and her constant threats to "talk" about the Royal Family and bragging she didn't sign an NDA... just shows that she was welcomed and trusted. Only to now hint/disclose she really can't be trusted. It makes you wonder if she is blackmailing them or she actually hasn't got anything else to say. Or if it's all just a tease to get attention. Time will tell.

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    1. Becca in Colorado30 August 2022 at 16:42

      Meghan's point in sharing the nursery fire story was to emphasize how they still had to go out and do an official engagement when they were all so shaken by the very near injury (or possibly fatality) of their 4 month old son. That has nothing to do with bashing South Africa; in fact, she praised their South African nanny...

      Meghan has her flaws, but I really don't see the UN or other international relations slamming the door in her face over that story lol

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    2. Zimbabwean. Not the same country at all.

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    3. Dear Florida Moxie, I am sure Meghan and Harry are silent about the worst things they experienced while being working royals. I think they have too much compassion and love for the family and Britain. They know that they can live their lives now and the Royal side has to live all the absurdities and anxieties that go with it. Meghan got out of it. Having suicidal thoughts is a horrific experience and it’s not coming from nowhere. Other women in the Royal ranks actually tried - multiple times. The role of women is a very vulnerable one in these institutions. I believe with all these stories Meghan wanted to communicate this. There maybe laws but she had to endure a long fight to see her privacy protected in case of a handwritten letter to her father. We cannot imagine life in their shoes.
      They were totally unprotected by the Palaces which is really astonishing. So there was no will and maybe the Sussexes were a shield to hide something that should not be exposed. This is what I see. I do believe they really have not exposed them. They have started to build new lives and give certain information- a glimpse of what it is really. They are still loyal in many ways because they know they have a choice now and a beautiful life before them.

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    4. She talked about is as someone who is a mother, same as Serena and many others. BM and palace staff tried to say no she told a lie the South African journalists actually looked in story and found it to be true and a British officer tos them to keep quiet. And someone saw the heater and melted plastic of said heater

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  15. I thin, based on things Harry has said, that Harry acted out rather than standing up for himself, probably because he would be alone in doing so. I think he has an alley in Eugenie, and maybe Beatrice, but they were younger and not married/more independent then. I don't think Harry saw how problematic it would be working "for" an older brother who puts the monarchy above other things. Harry had his group of friends who, in my view, use their wealth to just have a good time. One reason they bring up the RF constantly may be because the media mentions it ad nauseum -- "insulting the Queen" etc., etc. A second reason is that the victims apparently will never receive a "sorry for letting the media trash you to the point of feeling suicidal." The RF should have cared about and unhappy family member (Harry) but instead now has a member (Meghan) who appears to be very much disliked by a future king. Meghan is not perfect -- I bet she regrets telling that wedding story about dancing in the streets in South Africa, but I don't doubt that she was told that. I think she's being her honest self, Tig style.

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  16. Can we all please stop acting like it wasn't one rule for others and entirely different rules when it came to Meghan and subsequently Harry, Archie and Lili. Just like in these comments! And YES, the BM have even said, if Meghan would just sit down with us we'd change the narrative around her, but if not it will only get worse.
    Harry and Meghan were and are not willing to pay that game. From now on I'm staying away from this comment section in every post

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  17. I'm honestly shocked that she said that South Africans were as overjoyed about her wedding to Harry as they were when Nelson Mandela was released from prison. This seems quite a bit OTT to me, and now it looks like Mandela's grandson was offended by it. This is one instance where she seems quite tone deaf.

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    1. Meghan actually said someone told her that. It probably was the result of the emotions related to the wedding, in both the UK and South Africa. Apparently the quotes are not all 100% accurate in The Cut, so who knows what and how she meant this, repeating what someone told her.

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    2. Someone told her that and she thought it was important enough to repeat it 3 years later in an interview in which she has lots of things to promote. It was her choice to mention it so she has to like/agree with that comment.

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    3. Chayce: FYI - There is a youtube video (part being shared on Twitter) of South Africans watching the wedding and celebrating. And yes someone told her that. Be blessed

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    4. I knew I would get slammed for this comment. I'm sure people were celebrating Meghan's wedding. I myself enjoyed it very much. But to mention in a podcast which was supposed to focus on Mariah that she and Nelson Mandela received the same level of celebration is wrong IMO. Yes she said she heard this from someone else (3 years ago), but mentioning this at this tume seened apropo of nothing. Again, my opinion, just as you have yours. Have a great day!

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    5. I agree with Chayce. @Anonymous 16:11 I doubt The Cut would print inaccurate quotes and not openly rectify it with this kind of backlash. I also don't get the focus on SA. As far as I know SA has no deeper connection to her wedding than Kenia or Zimabwee or any other African country? And while someone might have said that to her, that is really not the thing to bring up 4 years later. She must know it's NOT the same, NOT true but probably a loving exeggaration by a fan. Which is sweet but why talk about it? What is the point but to underline how important her wedding was? Which says more about what she thinks of her imortance than anything else. It's a way to shocase your importance by don't outwright saying it about yourself. I wouldn't dream of calling me highly talented BUT that is what others say about me.... The whole article has quite the mocking tone about her. I am surprised not more people have picked that up.

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  18. I think that after this interview, it is nearly impossible to remain a fan of both M&H and the rest of the RF. With that said, I really hoped that M&H would embark on an entirely new journey unrelated to their "royal" days but they seem very fixated on sharing their account of things from those two years in increasingly sharp manner which makes it impossible to like and support both parties involved. I found it quite annoying that Meghan is strictly called duchess in the article while Kate is only mentioned as Kate Middleton. Somehow this whole article did not sit well with me.

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  19. I haven't listened to this podcast, and while I've seen some screechy, hysterical, trashy-tabloid and other reactions, I have an extremely low tolerance for the Sussex-bashing contingent and haven't looked closely. I'll say only that as a professional woman, I've been slapped with a variety of unpleasant labels (far worse than "diva") for being ambitious in a manner no different from that of my male colleagues AND for having aspirations within my field somewhat different from theirs. In other words, either way, you're going to face backlash. I have quite a few observations on that subject, but they don't belong in this forum. Suffice it to say that someone like MS, with her interests, experiences, background, and age was always going to be a square peg in the royal family; I think that was inevitable. And unfortunately, it wasn't going to change to accommodate her, or not soon enough. Change within a monarchy tends to move at a relatively glacial pace for a variety of reasons. Diana's been dead for 25 years, but many of the problems her experience highlighted from 1981 onwards still exist.

    On to fashion: I've not been a great Tory Burch fan, although I do own a couple of her dresses. I tend to find her designs somewhat staid and conventional. However, this black and cream dress is a knockout, very imaginative, and I note on Burch's site that she's taking some design risks in general. I'm happy to see that. I also think the dress needed some color and that the green earrings are just right with it. An inspired combination.

    I can't see the Chanel and Bottega Veneta dresses well enough to comment, but the Proenza Schouler trouser suit is terrific. I've seen the jacket worn with slimmer trousers but think it works better with this fuller cut. I love PS but have never been able to find an item I really like at a price point I'm willing to pay. The white of this suit reminds me of a fantastic cream jacket PS offered years ago, one I later searched for on sale in vain. I still yearn after it!

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  20. Meghan and Harry continue to heal and what you feel is right for you, your family, and work. Like it's been said Meghan is d*mned if she does and d*mned if she doesn't. Haters, trolls, tabloids, detractors, etc will always find something to complain about. Be blessed

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  21. I was shocked at the 'not being able to afford the mansion' comment. Whatever her intentions, which I do not doubt, it was such an out-of-touch comment it has made me quite frustrated. Complaining about not being able to afford a house with he palm trees, as if people are not having deep and unsustainable financial troubles, why?

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  22. I am a bit surprised no one has mentioned that the article is not exactly reading like an endorsement? There quite some digs and descriptive parts that make Meghan look extremely calculated, out of touch and entitled. Many of the mentioned parts are also quite unnecessary for the flow of the interview but seem to be inserted just to look bad. I don't know what the motives of the author were but Meghan and Harry's press team should maybe have a closer look at what is published.

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    1. I agree. There is a deliberate irony. On the surface the article seems laudatory but it is actually meant to provoke a negative reaction.

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  23. I have to add that my favorite cat, Honey, is a major diva! She's gorgeous, knows what she wants, and waits until she's satisfied. Thinking of Meghan's fashion moments, like in The Cut, I don't know how she can escape a label of "diva." It's not a bad thing -- I wish I could look like her in those moments.

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  24. The comments by Meghan that people find objectionable are a small part of the podcast. It's unfortunate that these things get blown out of proportion because it overshadows the important discussions about deeply held attitudes that have prevented women from participating fully and freely in society. I suspect that years of being trashed by the press and palace aides (who, let's be honest, have not been silenced by the royal family) have been so traumatizing that Meghan refuses to be censored anymore -- to a point. She and Harry have refrained from divulging information about individual members of the royal family that could be very damaging -- like the name of the person who worried about the color of their children's skin.

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